“In the Same Vein” Podcast

Art historian and Assistant Professor of Health Humanities and Bioethics Christine Slobogin has been working in the public humanities through podcasting since 2021. With the help of the ICPS, she has created and published the first season of “In the Same Vein,” a podcast co-hosted by medical students, undergraduates, and PhD students that examines groundbreaking work in the interdisciplinary fields of the health humanities and bioethics. Through interviews with innovative scholars, this podcast explores how the study of the humanities influences medical practice, and how, in turn, medicine influences the study of the humanities. The first season of “In the Same Vein,” released throughout the Fall semester of 2024, explored topics such as the use of AI in medicine, emotions and surgery, and medical error. Slobogin also co-hosts and produces “Drawing Blood,” a podcast about art and visual culture, histories of science and medicine, and the macabre. Over three seasons, Slobogin and her co-host have discussed topics from disability in M. Night Shyamalan’s films, human remains in museums and contemporary art, race in medieval transplant histories, and plastic surgery in Andy Warhol’s work.

As part of this project, Slobogin co-created two episodes with her colleague Jon Herington. In first episode, Jon was the interviewee. An undergraduate student, Maya Daniello, and Slobogin grilled him about a recent article “Investigating Ethical Tradeoffs in Crisis Standards of Care through Simulation of Ventilator Allocation Protocols.” In the podcast, they discussed ventilator allocation, the Covid-19 pandemic, racial disparities in resource allocation, and the difference between saving lives and saving life years. Jon dove into big questions about this type of work: How do we translate bioethics to medical audiences and to other audiences? What are some of the benefits and some of the drawbacks of using data to try to answer thorny bioethical questions?

https://open.spotify.com/episode/0xoojPJKcLkrguBEufZSK1 

In the second episode, Jon switched roles to be the interviewer. Alongside a PhD student in philosophy, Adam DeDobbelaere, he was able to interview a physician, data scientist, and ethicist – Erika Ramsdale. They discussed a range of topics: ethical quandaries now and in the future of AI, automation bias, the use of AI by both patients and clinicians, “digital twins,” bias in AI, and the state of data quality and privacy in medicine.

https://open.spotify.com/episode/7KBSNOnbv5C2CsOe0bjZnI